Science Project?

Sooo…some plumbing is done. Yeah, I know it looks like a science project…but we always said, this is to be a Victorian house with modern features.

The tankless water heater is in and hooked up (not fired up yet). Not shown below are the electrical connection and the remote monitor panel connection.

The tankless water heater.

The tankless water heater sans cover.

I have to say, I have intensely mixed feelings about installing this water heater.

On the plus side:
1) Space saver. No large water heater closet needed.
2) No vent stack needed.
3) Efficient. Costs MUCH less to operate over the year than its tanked brethren.
4) Geekiness. It has a remote panel that indicates water flow, inlet and outlet temperatures, you can set the water temp, and turn it off as well.

On the minus side:
1) Cost. It about 30% more spendy to purchase then it’s tanked brethren, although some of that is offset by the lack of need to buy and install a new vent stack.
2) Complexity. MUCH more complex than the old fashioned kind. Computer boards, electric ignitors, and miscellaneous sensors are involved. I’m just worried that it won’t be reliable and long lasting. Only time will tell. It’s an expensive experiment…

Back to the installation…

If anything at all scares me about this project, it’s how much all the little things add up.

Water heater? No problem. I know the cost and planned for it.

Hooking up said water heater? Youch! Three high-grade flexible hoses. A gas pipe and fittings. A gas valve and flexible hose. Several brass nipples. Various fittings. If I add in the isolator valves required…we’re in the $200 range…just in fittings to hook the durn thing up. Sheesh.

Moving inside…the tankless is fed from, and returns the hot water to a PEX manifold, which serves as a distribution point for all the needed fresh water plumbing in the house, much like a breaker box for electricity.

The plumbing manifold, hooked to the tankless water heater and filters.

The plumbing manifold, hooked to the tankless water heater and filters.

Keep in mind all this will be embedded in a wall (framing is there) with cabinet doors for access…probably all beadboard for those that must know.

Advantages are no joints under the house or in the walls, quicker hot water to its usage point, ease and cost of installation, code approval, and more (discussed in a different article/later). The PEX manifold is fed from the main via the filters above.

Some will ask about the need for filters…I installed them as the tankless hot water heaters all recommend a good sediment filter be installed before them in the line. The heat exchangers are so fine that sediment could clog them up and also cause corrosion.

Well, if I’m going to filter sediment from the hot water, I may as well for the cold too.

Two filters…the first one courser then the second, which lengthens the change period to probably every 6-9 months. I’ll just do it every 6 months…ya know…when you’re supposed to change your smoke and CO detector alarms. Y’all DO change those alarm batteries every 6 months, yes?

Water sent to outside spigots will NOT be filtered (waste of media).

Now…if I can just avoid cross-wiring this cool looking thing to the new electrical service, ala “Three Stooges” … you know…water shooting out the chandelier and such…then life will be good!

CUAgain,
Daniel Meyer

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3 Responses to Science Project?

  1. Carpentershiba says:

    Do you see any irony in installing this high tech 21st century “on demand” water heater in the same house you ripped the really scary 18th century “on demand” water heater out of? And the fact they’re both powered by the same fuel source?

  2. Daniel Meyer says:

    No irony at all actually (grin).

    The Victorians were VERY innovative and loved new things. They embraced new developements as they came along and adapted them to their homes. I’m just following in their footsteps!

    This home has been heated by first by wood, later by coal, and then natural gas. Next it will be a combination of natural gas and extremely efficient heatpumps.

    When it was built there were no indoor toilets, but there was a bathtub. The added toilets as soon as the was “flush and drain” available.

    It is kind of funny that we have circled back to “on demand” technology for hot water though.

    The new one is a little safer than the old one I expect! Much more efficient too!

    I’m still pondering cleaning the old one up and installing it on a wall in the guest bathroom with some fake plumbing and lots of levers. “Have at it!” will send guests in a panic!

    -dm

  3. RobiaBill says:

    Daniel, have you completed the water line installation to any rooms yet ? If so would you send me a pic ? Also, is the water heater installed on the outside of the house ? thanx.

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